it is what michelle obama said about barack obama in 2008. he could be killed at a gas station. >> it is not just everyday indignities of being followed around or denied a job. we see it in stop and frisk and racial profiling. we are seeing it, it seems, more now. justifiable homicides are up. psychologically, whether people go into these situations saying i'm going to use my stand by ground law rights. how does that reinforce what they already think in the buys as and the confluence of that. >> part of this is also related to violence. when young black boys and men die, it tends to be at the hands of other young black men and boys. that also even in our failure to stem that violence, we also then provide more opportunities for thinking of black men and boys in this way. in an interracial con text, that becomes part of that. >> we forget, black men are the most victimized group in america, not just perpetrators but the victims. >> thank you to joy and ari and trumani. >>> women are fighting for the rights of all of us. as we go to break, i'm